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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 : 3:36:32 PM
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Mouce this ones for u!! ;-)(any1 who can help actually) just got tha sub put in from strathfield! lifetime warranty yewww! i got a 2006 MTX RT202 200w/rms 2 channel amp, and a RT1204 12inch 200w/rms sub in a box! there both 400w i think max? not sure http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/enclosures/RTLoaded.cfm http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/amplifiers/rtp202.cfm i rekon their stuff is good!!
now firstly should i cut a hole in the box for more air since it didnt come with one? im not sure if it doesnt need one or not since it is a MTX box aswell, already mounted.
Secondly im putting in L'Brackets so i can mount the sub, (im gonna do this neway) but wondering if it helps with the sound at all?
Lastly, im trying to find the maximum i can have the sub up without overheating anything or breaking anything! I have mi gain on 3quarters of the way! On mi tuner it has a few settings!::: 1. Amp Level- Low or High>>>>i have it on High 2. Sub Level- Low, Mid or High >>>>i have it on High 3. Sub Output- 0,1,2....7,8>>>>i have it on 8 4. Bass and treble frequencies as all tuners have>>> i put it on +2 bass and treble +2 aswell 5. Fader: R3 -works the best!>>dont need to change
just wondering if i can have mi tuner on all highs and just turn the sub gain down or wat? cause at the moment its alright but not awesome! it sounds best wen sub gain is on full but mi mate was saying how u can heard the subs magnets (i think) rattling! which stuffs it up!
any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks guys! 
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 02:02:22 AM
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I cant help you with all your questions but here goes. No you probably should not cut a hole in the box. Here is a bit of info that may help explain why - Sealed subwoofer boxes generally are much smaller than ported enclosures. If you're limited on space, it would probably be a good idea to go with a sealed enclosure. Not only is there a size difference, but there is also a difference in sound between the two enclosures. Sealed enclosures tend to produce tight, accurate bass and have a flat frequency response curve. They are also generally the enclosure of choice when looking for a SQ (Sound Quality) oriented setup.
Ported boxes can get very large and have many varying factors that will determine their size and sound output. Ported enclosures produce louder bass than sealed enclosures, and allow you to tune the box to a specific frequency to determine how the bass will sound. Higher tuning on a ported box will get louder, but at the expense of sound quality. Lower tuning will still get louder than a sealed box, and at the same time will yeild fairly good sound quality.
Mounting the box as rigid as possible will probably help with the sound as well so the box doesn't have anywhere to go when the bass hits and wont dampen the sound.
By magnet rattling it sounds as though you mean that the sub is distorting (not a very clear sound) which yes is very bad.
Also what sort of head unit are you running. Knowing this may help us to give you the best possible settings. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Benche
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 02:06:33 AM
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if they didnt put a a hole than dont put 1 . sub's are made for holes and no holes . MTX are compition brand sub's and i love em i plan to put 2 or 4 15" subs in my car . mtx sub's take alot of abuse... alot . wtf sub magnets . if you put the gain to high your sub's will distort wich is not good for your sub's because it's like driving your car on the rev limiter . it will pop . ask a car audio place to tune your system . makes it much easer . good luck |
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trizo
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 02:21:46 AM
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truth be be told if mouce was around he would be rolling aroud in his skin listening to this !!! ;) |
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 02:25:38 AM
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also just remember what evr sound systemu mount i it place some rubber to stop magnet bounce ect!!1......
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 7:47:51 PM
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mi tuner is a JVC G425 im pretty sure, 2006 model! im not gonna put a hole in it!! so wen i mount mi sub should i have it facing towards the front or end of the car??
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 8:35:06 PM
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It should be mounted facing the back end of the car. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 8:57:05 PM
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u sure bro? |
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 11:02:52 AM
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Level setting, done by ear, is more art than science. It can be done using an oscilloscope but since few people have one of those laying around we'll cover doing it by ear. Basically you want to start with the first component in the chain (head unit) and work your way to the last component (amplifier).
1. Start by turning all of the input level adjustment knobs (gain controls) on your components fully counter-clockwise (to their minimum setting). Set the tone controls (bass, treble, loudness) on your head unit to no boost (bass and treble level = 0 and loudness is off). Make sure your fader and balance controls are set to the middle position. If you have more than one RCA pair you will want to set each gain adjustment separately. 2. Next set all of your equalizers settings (if you have an equalizer) to the center (detent) position so they produce no boost or cut. What we want is as pure a signal as possible. 3. Put in some good quality source material, preferably a CD with strong output and a clean recording. Hard rock would be a bad choice here. Try something cleaner, maybe acoustic, that you're familiar with. 4. Turn the deck's volume up slowly until you begin to hear distortion. When you hear it, stop and back off slightly until you no longer hear it. If you don't hear distortion, even when the volume is all of the way up then you have a quality head unit. That's what we're looking for. 5. Now with your head unit at maximum undistorted volume move on to the next component. Adjust it's input gain until you begin to hear distortion. Back off slightly. 6. Continue this process until you have all of the components in the chain at their maximum undistorted level. 7. When you reach the amplifiers you may need to wear earplugs to adjust them to their maximum level. As before, turn up the gain until you hear audible distortion.
That's it. Play some music and verify that everything sounds right. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 11:19:06 AM
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Play around with the positioning of the subwoofer box in the trunk to get the sound you want. You may find it best to point the box so that the subwoofers are aimed toward the rear or toward the interior of the vehicle. When pointing toward the rear, the sound wave has a longer distance to travel, and you get more bass as a result.
To test for the best crossover point for the subwoofers, set the low-pass crossover of the amplifier at 100 Hz and play something on your system. Watch the movement of the subwoofers. The lower the crossover-point frequency, the less movement on the subwoofers. Watch to see whether the subwoofers are moving too much and listen to the music to determine whether there is distortion. Most systems run at 85 or 80 Hz. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 2:54:06 PM
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lol, I go out for a weekend, and look what I miss. A discussion on my favourite topic. I'm on my lunch break so gotta make this quick, but it looks like VNSVLE covered it all, dont have timne to scan it all.
Anything you still dont understand, throw me a PM and I'll throw you some info. |
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 2:57:33 PM
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mi amp just has Low Pass, Mid, or High! u can just choose between those three! i have it on Low Pass, i rekon thats fine cause the 6x9's produce some higher db bass!
cheers boys!! ;-) |
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