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V8VNCalais
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 :  5:45:28 PM  Show Profile  Click to see V8VNCalais's MSN Messenger address Send V8VNCalais a Private Message
 
please excuse my technopobia. when you said you had an adapter does that mean you have something that goes from serial to USB. I have a bit of spare time on my hands I am going to jus make one myself
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 :  8:53:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
You can buy aldl cables that have either USB or serial connectors.

Google dude- you'll pay around $50 for one.
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  03:20:46 AM  Show Profile  Click to see V8VNCalais's MSN Messenger address Send V8VNCalais a Private Message
 
http://cable.invisibill.net/

I know this is probably gettign on a bit but can any one see what the lighter plug is for
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  04:54:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
have a look at this it wasnt a bad read either....

http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/aldl160/aldl_hw.htm
 

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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  07:32:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
I con't open the link but often the serial adapters need a power source- either a 240 volt domestic plug or the 12volt lighter plug.

The USB leads and self powered from the laptop.

I could be way off the mark though because I can't open that link at work and see exactly what you are talking about.
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  11:29:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
the vn-vp are 12 volt as most aussie cars are, but in the usa they are all 5 volt make sure you get the right 1! The link opens for me must be your work comp mild lol!
 

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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  12:37:16 PM  Show Profile  Click to see V8VNCalais's MSN Messenger address Send V8VNCalais a Private Message
 
That seems a little more straight forward. probably need my dads help on the serial port end of the circuit but its alittle more understandable then having a light plug hanging of the side of it
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 :  1:36:57 PM  Show Profile Send rlj308 a Private Message
 
hi guys i am new to this forum and very intrested in this soft ware any chance of someone emailing to me?
i have just finished installing an injected 304 into my torana and have isses. regards john.

Edited by - trizo on 01 Nov 2008 3:08:45 PM
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 :  3:07:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
here is a link to down load it your self....


http://www.vncommodore.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=1410&SearchTerms=win%2Caldl
 

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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  09:17:38 AM  Show Profile Send Charc0a1 a Private Message
 
I was writting a very advanced ALDL 160Baud reader a couple of years ago, but limitation in the 160 baud protocol caused me to stop development and start working on a newer ALDL 8192baud reader. This is still in development. If anyone wants the ALDL160 software, I will email it do you an no cost. I can't work out how to attach it on this forum.





Hello! would you or If anyone else here that got it given to them please be able to send me that awesome program Mayhem made with the VN dashboard for 160b diagnostics it would be greatly appreciated I would love to run that program on a laptop In my VN thanks in advance
 

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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  11:09:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
thereis a link above your post that will take you straight to the download... as for puting up your program on here, I couldnt c it being a problem, just email admin (David) and Im sure it will be done for you.... also welcome to te site m8...
 

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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  07:52:18 AM  Show Profile Send Charc0a1 a Private Message
 
hey!.... Awesome!!!! I really cant thank you enough for the quick reply
Great site having a sweet time reading through some of the very helpful topics.. Keep up the good work guys!!!.. Sorry to be a bother if someone could help me with one more question in the modified ALDL program it has in the vehicles folder a file called Holden_VQ_V8_$5D.alv Would i need a specific file to get this to work with a 1991 V6 VN? thanks again in advance!
 

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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  09:07:53 AM  Show Profile Send Charc0a1 a Private Message
 
ok Ive opened the .alv file in wordpad alot of it i cant make sense of other than you can specify rate and what com port to use also some stuff about how liters per hour is calculated.. not to sure what has to be modified if anything at all when i get the spare time ill crank it up on the beast and see how we go... ill jump back on here when i make some progress.
 

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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  10:22:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
nps m8 glad it helped , I have never used it nor do I intend to but from what I have heard , its a bitch of a program to get working right....And yeah if u do manage to work it out by all means post up a bit of a users guide....thanks m8 .......TRiz
 

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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  04:13:52 AM  Show Profile Send Charc0a1 a Private Message
 
ok.. tonight i got my cable all made up just a note to anyone thinking of making their own, the emitter and collector on the transistor i used according to the manufacturers data sheet was the Opposite to what is pictured and stated in all the tutorials i have found on the net so far, so if your making your own take good care to note the transistor pin outs also the one i used came from a disposable camera transistor type S9014. the serial connector from an old micr0s0ft ball mouse three 10k resistors from an old kids toy, plugged into an ancient toshiba satellite pro 4200 notebook. It works fine with WinALDL. yay! success havnt had much luck with this ALDL Reader with the sweet dashboards.. i will have a play with it tomorrow and if i get anywhere ill let y'all know. Phwew, saved 60 bucks.. lol such a frugal cheapskate .. rofl.. ok now to eventually mount the lappie in the glove compartment area on retractable rails and get a Gps Card for it : )
 

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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  3:13:05 PM  Show Profile Send mayhem2408 a Private Message
 
quote:
Originally posted by Charc0a1

ok Ive opened the .alv file in wordpad alot of it i cant make sense of other than you can specify rate and what com port to use also some stuff about how liters per hour is calculated.. not to sure what has to be modified if anything at all when i get the spare time ill crank it up on the beast and see how we go... ill jump back on here when i make some progress.



The V8 and V6 VN/P/Q all use the ECM and does not require any changes. The ALDL reader should automatically adjust to V6, V8, Auto, Manual combos.
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nodg
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  4:00:35 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
yep thats correct all vn to vp ecus are the same no matter what motor and box you have.

That aldl reader does not work ive tried many many times and could never get it to work, i updated my antivirus to 'maximum' and it came up with an embeded bisrus so be careful with it. Even so it only winaldl with a fancy dashboard, nothing new, go for tuner pro rt and efi live v4 which the links for those and more to do with actual tuning can be found on my site.
 

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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  9:40:44 PM  Show Profile Send mayhem2408 a Private Message
 
quote:
Originally posted by nodg

yep thats correct all vn to vp ecus are the same no matter what motor and box you have.

That aldl reader does not work ive tried many many times and could never get it to work, i updated my antivirus to 'maximum' and it came up with an embeded bisrus so be careful with it. Even so it only winaldl with a fancy dashboard, nothing new, go for tuner pro rt and efi live v4 which the links for those and more to do with actual tuning can be found on my site.



The ALDLReader used PECompact to compress the size of the exe. PECompact has been know to cause false AV warnings. I can assure you it does not contain a virus. As for the comparison with WinALDL. It is true. It does not offer much more apart from the customizable dashboards. That is the reason I stopped developing the 160baud version and moved on to the 8192baud version. A lot more control over the ECM. I am currently running a VQ V8 (Same as VN/P) with the VR Memcal to support 8192baud.
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  01:27:51 AM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
the only reason i went back to the vn spec chip was because my vr memcal wouldnt connect up to the aldl cable/software i have, so you have a prog that will work with the vn's 'slow' ecu but with the larger memcal/eeprom?

Also how can i get that aldl reader to work ill give it another try?
 

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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  11:33:54 AM  Show Profile Send mayhem2408 a Private Message
 
quote:
Originally posted by nodg

the only reason i went back to the vn spec chip was because my vr memcal wouldnt connect up to the aldl cable/software i have, so you have a prog that will work with the vn's 'slow' ecu but with the larger memcal/eeprom?

Also how can i get that aldl reader to work ill give it another try?



Unfortunatly it's not as easy as that. The VR memcal will work in the VN ECM and the engine will run fine, however to get the 8192baud to work, it requires some modification to the VNs ECM. The Older ECM does not contain the onboard chip to output the 8192baud data. I have a custom made addon board to get the 8192 data out via a serial connection.
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  2:27:39 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
in that case ill just save up for a vr ecu :)

How do i get the program to work even with the vn chip with that 160baud reader?
 

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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  7:42:56 PM  Show Profile Send mayhem2408 a Private Message
 
quote:
Originally posted by nodg

in that case ill just save up for a vr ecu :)

How do i get the program to work even with the vn chip with that 160baud reader?



I have not had a 160baud V8 for years, so unfortunatly I can no longer test it. It should be as simple as setting the com port you want in the properties page and then click on the listen button. In theory if your cable works in WinALDL, it should work in ALDLReader160.
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  10:28:28 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
i had winaldl working, closed it then opened the aldl readet, loaded the appropriate settings and still didnt work... that was about a year ago now, ill just stick with tunerpro & efilive as they have alot more options to play with. but then again i wouldnt of minded getting the virtual dash to work as it looks pretty cool
 

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Posted - 10 Jan 2009 :  3:59:38 PM  Show Profile Send montyt a Private Message
 
hey there.
i have installed aldl, and got it runnign with a cable.
BTW.. car is v8 vn commadore.

Did a quick test drive, and speedo is way out and other settings look a bit off.

in the settings file it says
"ECMTYPE=1227747, 1228062"

is this corect ?
how / where can i find the ecm type for my car ?
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 :  10:40:56 PM  Show Profile Send DieselBob a Private Message
 
if you have a VN then the ECM is a 1227808 :)
 

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great looking software grabbed a copy and due to that a fresh longterm member cant wait to try it out is it costomisable at all i want to log kalmaker with it as well as factory tunes
 

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quote:
Originally posted by trizo

lol even reset the ecm so it get rid of old faults that have been logged!
Win aldl is crap!

so does the ecm keep records of faults which in the world of computors takes up space like history. so if you reset it it will run cleaner again provided your engine light's not on.
 

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Posted - 24 Feb 2009 :  10:06:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
yes the ecm will hold old fault codes, but as soon as its reset it wipes the memory of old codes!
 

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