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SKDWGN
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andrewpapa
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 Posted - 19 May 2010 : 6:53:47 PM
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| hi i like this it has no rev limiter so you can posh the vn even harder ,let me know how you go and how much you can rev it to.i mit get one too but my vn runs on lpg and i think it dos not have a rev limiter.the lpg has its own computer ,but let me know how much you can rev the vn too? the v6 should rev more but it is the rev limiter that stops it. mad chip !!!!! |
i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 27 May 2010 : 09:28:07 AM
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| yea i will ill see if i can get in car video of my tacho and **** |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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nodg
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 5:08:09 PM
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mate to make a good skid car out of a vn whether it be a v6 or v8, dont touch the motor just get it running it good condition and make sure the transmission shifts and drives smoothly. simply remove the mufflers and add a straight through 2.25 inch pipe(v6) or 3 inch pipe(v8), remove air filter and place a piece of fly screen in the airbox with home made cold air induction, clamp off the rear brakes then finally put either 3.9 or 4.11 diff gears in the differential along with a mini spool.. whack some pursuits wrapped in 205/65/15 or 225/60/15 pumped up to 40 psi and you have you ultimate skid machine... Some of those mods like brake clamps, spool and removing mufflers arent legal lol..
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 08:47:54 AM
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| sweet i dont have rear brakes at all, all ive done to it is put a pod on it and a shorten belt and ill make up a twin system and i run 80 psi in my skid cars |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 10:07:11 AM
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| Hey im building a burnout vn aswell , any advice or how to would be great. How did you remove the rear brakes. cheers |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 12:43:24 PM
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| nodg means using clamps to temporarily shut off brake fluid to the rear brakes. If the car was "burnout strip only; carried by trailer to and from events, it wouldn't be a problem. If it's to be driven on the road, any kind of disabling the rear brakes is a red sticker offence. If it is strip only, you could probably shut off the rear brakes permanently by undoing the rear flexible lines to the calipers and putting specially machined bolts into the fittings. If you change your mind, you'd only have to reconnect them and bleed them back up. nodg's version is the "no mess" way of doing it. |
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dryVN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 1:17:09 PM
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Thanks Mechkight , Sounds like the best way to do them as you said at the brakes themselves. It would be a trailer only car. Need thoughts on this i was also thinking of disconnecting the brake line at the master cylinder by putting a bolt in there stop the flow. But am not sure how this will effect the front brakes , or if there would be any issues with the proportioning valve. the only reason why i would not perminatly use the clamps is just in case the brake hose perishes over time and spays fluid all over the track. good idea short term thought if used occasionally.
SKDWGN : With the chip i have installed one from Protune in Tasmania. 6000 redline type and its got a different fuel map that means i can only run 95 octane or more. This chip is awesome and cost $40 delivered on ebay and does exactly what it said. They have a burnout chip aswell no cutout , very harsh tune and 98 octane only. But i would not know how long the mighty v6 would last at super high revs. i suppose they are cheap enough to replace though. |
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dryVN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 1:38:14 PM
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Oh just realized thats the one your looking at. I would recommend them. With the mods ive got and the chip. ive found that stock and old fuel pump is now on the way out again. its leaning out at high revs, so i will be installing a catch can and external fuel pump as well. just to be safe.
sorry Mechknight73 about spelling your name, what was i thinking. |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 7:35:56 PM
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Originally posted by dryVN
Hey im building a burnout vn aswell , any advice or how to would be great. How did you remove the rear brakes. cheers
all i do it weld the diff chuck on a pod a belt with out aircon make a twin system that goes to the bak wheels and get a old rear brake line cut the bit that goes into the master and weld it bang it in i might be chuckin on my rear brake bak on also just in case i wanna take it out to another places and some self tappers for the rear bar to try n save it blowning off. have u done skids with these chips ? and what burnout comps do u go to ? |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 9:09:27 PM
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Nah mate im on a few acres of land and yes i have done a few practice skids here with the chip , but not at a full distance 1 and a half mins.
I have the stock 3.08 lsd and it seems tight at the moment , im just not able to hold it too long with the rear brakes on , and the power drops off as i get it
going at full noise( probably my poor technique lol)
Ive just taken this car off the road last month and am in the process of trying to build it up for skids as i have wanted to do this for ages.
Thanks for the info, Where do you thrash yours cause i would like to give mine a go sometime , (but i need to start off small) when ive got it all sorted, cheers |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 10:16:29 AM
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| i go to avalon speedway for my skids its only 150 for 1st prize but its some fun or u can wait untill the $1000 to win or the $5000 to win but u wont have a chance unless your blown or got turbos |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 11:50:37 AM
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Thats an awesome track , haven't been there for a while. Other side of the city for me though.
There is a speedway track near me called Nyora only about 20 mins away.
I will look em and and see what's goin on there.
like you said great for a challenge and a bit of fun. Cheers |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 7:37:59 PM
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| If you were to blank off the brake line at the master cylinder, it wouldn't affect the proportioning valve at all. As brake fluid no longer goes to the rear wheels (front and rear braking circuits only join up at the master cylinder) you would have full front brakes only. The idea of welding up the end of the rear brake line is a good one, simpler than my idea. The good part about doing it that way, is if you ever decide you need the car back on the road, it's a quick one to reverse. Word of warning: Seal the rear brake line if you want to preserve the rear brakes. Keeps the moisture and rust out. In theory, you should be able to buy or have a nut made to do that |
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dryVN
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Posted - 12 Jun 2010 : 2:58:10 PM
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| got the nut welded up and installed , pushed the brakes and there is a very slight weeping of fluid around the bolt. is there sealant that will stop the leak or could i use some Teflon tape on the bolt. I'm really hanging to see this thing turn the wheels. cheers. |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 5:30:03 PM
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| never had that problem but try some teflon tape if it leaks out from the thead |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 6:04:44 PM
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Tried the tape and then silly me realized the weld had a pin hole. i just re-welded it and good pedal feel now.
Thanks for all the reply's on building a burnout pig. As no one i know has done this before , there all not into cars anyway which is why this site rocks.
Did you buy the chip. it seems to work good on my vn. i got the one you solder in , but now they sell the whole lot ready to go which seems easier. |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 08:44:05 AM
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| no worrys mate just waiting untill i can afford the chip was it hard to soilder in ? ive bult 3 cars now for burnouts my latest one me n my mate are doing is a V6 VK wagon and im still waiting on my diff for my vn wagon then buy a chip and then its ready |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 09:51:57 AM
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The chip needed a good hot , thin tipped soldering iron to pick it out a pole at a time , being very careful not to fry anything. Slowly lifting it with a smallish screwdriver bit by bit. Took my brother ages to do it and he's good with the computer stuff.
Pro tune supply a socket you solder in where the chip used to be. the beauty of this setup is that you can change to any chip you like quickly. the memcal unit doesn't close properly and leaves a tiny gap when you fit the socket cause it bigger , but i installed it to my car that way and no problems at all.
You could also solder the chip itself in but then the hassle of picking it out when and if you want to change again.
sounds like your both wagon v6 blokes , plenty of room out back for carrying those tyres your both gona (happily) go through. |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 3:37:40 PM
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| yeah mate he had a vn sedan and i used his vk at the last skids and i went out brought a vn wagon and he scrapped his vn sedan cos the motor blow up so he just said stuff it if u got a wagon i gotta do up mine and wack a v6 in it i had 14 tyres in the vk and still had room for tools and the big jack this was the vk B4 we turned it into the skid car we like to test our car b4 we do anything with em but my mate went a lil bit nuts with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR46tuwJPs&playnext_from=TL&videos=mH9GqqonbTQ |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 5:10:39 PM
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| out on the burnout pad it was a ****box but it was to grippy |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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dryVN
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 09:51:11 AM
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VK Carby L6 , 86 kw
VN V6 , 125 kw
= blown tyre's . lol |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 12:18:45 PM
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| as long as it = blowns tyres i dont care lol has any one use off road 4WD tyres for skids B4 there 31x10.50R15 im thinking of modifyiing my vn so they will fit do they smoke good ? |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 11:41:31 PM
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There's a compromise in burnout tyres: High traction+ high grip + high drag = better smoke, for a shorter time due to soft compound rubber.
Low grip + low drag = Less smoke but longer burnout time. Light truck tyres are a harder compound, therefore will smoke for longer, but how much smoke might vary. You could always experiment and find out which suits your needs better. |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 2:11:39 PM
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| more smoke gotta last about 1 min and ill be happy |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 7:29:58 PM
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| Then find some soft compound rubber. The 10R15 4WD tyres would be good for this if you can fit them under the guards.Will raise the back end ridiculously high, but nobody said you were going to be doing laps of Phillip Island in it |
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 10:37:08 PM
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| yeah mate ill had a pair but my bro gave em away on me. |
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