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knightrook
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 Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 7:08:32 PM
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hey guys, im wanting to get some serious air flow improvements for my VN. im thinking Cold air Induction running to a pod filter... obviously... first of all is there any chance that im gonna buy the wrong type of CAI and im gonna waste $100 (or however much it costs me) and possibly ruin something so my bonnet doesnt close properly, or do they all pretty much fit and work ok. secondly, ive noticed several different types of pod filters in the stores (super cheap and alike, nothing fancy) are the different sizes for different models or are they for performance increases? if so are they noticeable... just in case one of you guys has randomly taken off a normal one and stuck a huge freakin one on there instead =P any input would be greatly appreciated!!
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LOWVH8
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 7:48:59 PM
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| just get yourself a good brand panel filter ie(k&n or redline) then buy a vn cai from holden and fit that pod filters sound crap on vn's like having a vacuum straped to the front of your car |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 8:09:45 PM
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| Alot of people get a Supercharged VS CAI from holden $60 - $80 I believe and yes as LOWVH8 a good panel filter is the way to go. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 8:48:25 PM
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^^^ VS CAI with a K&N panel is the best bang for buck in the induction stakes.
And some people like the sound of a pod ;) |
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knightrook
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 9:22:36 PM
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| would it be incredibly naive of me to ask how/where exactly a panel filter works? im assuming that it has something to do with panels... and filtering... lol. and where about would i be gettin my hands on one? do most car shops have em or should i try somewhere specific? |
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nodg
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 9:49:11 PM
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| the cai doesnt just bolt straight on like people say, the radiator shroud needs to be modified slightly to allow a little more room otherwise the bonnet wont shut. if you want to spend the cash, something ive been thinking about doing for a while but havent had the cash, is to have a pod (or cai doesnt matter) have it completely boxed off from the rest of the engine bay, then install a small scoop directly in front of the pod. the only problem you will have is you will get dust and water everywhere, i would (and will be) installing a fine mesh wrapped in a stocking to the bonnet in/under the scoop |
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knightrook
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 10:16:32 PM
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| is there anywhere you can get boxes which fit pods completely? also... would you just stick the CAI straight into the box, or is there some kinda special attachement you should be using... i suppose either way its gonna be working alright really. im always up for spending more cash and being 110percent happy with what ive got, id much rather that than bein stingy and savin a few bucks but "just living" with what ive got. |
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nodg
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 10:39:28 PM
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| you can get either a pod or panel type filter. the panel filter slides straight into your existing air box, i would then either get a sc v6 cai setup and modifying a few things to make it fit, or just simply take the standard snorkel off the end of the airbox and cut a larger hole. Pods on the other hand suck more air (make sure its a large one). for a pod all you need is a 100-120 dollar pod(k&n) and a small adapter plate. go to an exhaust shop and ask for a 3 inch exhaust cutoff around 10cm long. you can then install a cai flowing onto the pod if you want, but i recon getting a aluminium box made up to cover the pod and a cheap scoop will be better and look cool. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 09:18:42 AM
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The VS CAI goes on- no modifications required and without bonnet clearances. I had one for a couple of years without dramas and have never heard of anyone having clearance issues before.
If you are going to go the pod and box, look into insulating the box. I'm looking at it at the moment in mine- I think you can get the insulation for under $50 and I'm interested to see how it affects the ambient under bonnet temperature vs the ambient in-air box temperature.
Get a sheety to make you a box up and give it a lick of paint or polish it. It will of course be more expensive than the panel filter and VS CAI but if you are going to be happy with it why not. Look to the Starr airbox for inspiration but don't pick it up because it is far to expensive for what it is. The Starr box is open at the front so it takes air in around the headlight and also has a raised lip so it sucks air over the top of the headlight in a similar fashion to the VS and SS Inductions CAI. But it's pretty simple- if you're handy you could probably knock up something similar yourself. |
Edited by - MILD50 on 17 Apr 2008 09:21:14 AM |
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nodg
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 5:15:48 PM
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| i put one on my vn s1 v6 and the sc vs v6 cai wouldnt allow the bonnet to be shut without slamming it/forcing it shut. |
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Nodg. |
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knightrook
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 6:01:37 PM
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| yeah i was figuring id have to insulate it. plus it'd probly make it look better inside the box too. not that its the kinda thing you stare at for hours on end.. you CAN have a CAI running into a pod box cant ya? or does it have to be one or the other... and as long it still closes i dont mind slamming every now n then =P would i pick up a VS CAI from any holden dealership/outlet? |
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Dano84
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.kiwi.
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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 09:27:50 AM
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| does cutting a hole for the pipe make it harder to get a warrant of fitness? or what ever its called over there? |
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Dano84
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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 09:55:56 AM
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| mate i live in S.A, our laws are pretty casual compared to some other states. ive had cops pull me over check my engine on numerous occasions and they havnt said anything, aslong as your not a dickhead with an attitude, they should let it go. |
My V6 will beat your V8 |
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nodg
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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 2:20:02 PM
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| ive gotten away with a few 'not so minor things by playing it cool. |
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knightrook
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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 5:44:24 PM
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| hahhaa, nice one dano =P i went and bought an Aunger CAI system today, it installed easy as. now i just need to get a pod and build a box for it... *strokes beard* or get a nice panel filter! im sure its probly not as nice as the VS one you guys suggested but im just too plain impatient. haha. hopefully i'll have some pics up on here soon! |
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