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leebo
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  2:47:00 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
hey guys are these as good as the mace engineering ones

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VN-VR-COMMODORE-V6-V8-VS-SUPERSIZE-THROTTLE-BODY_W0QQitemZ140304118656QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item140304118656&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

they are cheaper but are the bull**** or good.
 

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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  06:46:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit crazybiker's Homepage  Click to see crazybiker's MSN Messenger address Send crazybiker a Private Message
 
They're legit. All they are are 10MM oversized.

As I've said before, your motor won't be sucking enough air to require that. (Plus, the elbow would be limiting since it's only 67MM)
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  12:04:38 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
good i know i ask this question alot about the throttle body's.

i really want the increased throttle response
 

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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  4:26:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit crazybiker's Homepage  Click to see crazybiker's MSN Messenger address Send crazybiker a Private Message
 
Well you will get the increase, but with that you'll also get a much more touchy throttle.
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  5:51:07 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
yeah that's what i like about mine as apposed to my brothers vs ecotec.

I'll get that one then
 

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Posted - 06 Mar 2009 :  7:10:04 PM  Show Profile  Click to see cosmo_aero's MSN Messenger address Send cosmo_aero a Private Message
 
I got mine 2day, and its great
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Posted - 07 Mar 2009 :  6:42:19 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
that's wiked mate. i'll order mine now i just have one more thing i wanted to be sure of was that will this go straight on or will i have to change the sensors over to the new one? not too bigger deal
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  5:41:55 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
Hey guys I'm having trouble here.
i pulled apart the head to find that bras belmouth thing I've seen people talking about and couldn't find it.

I'm guessing the last owner must have already removed it because i stuck my hand down there and couldn't find nothing.

Also my throttle body is 65mm is that normal?
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  6:04:10 PM  Show Profile Send Blacky a Private Message
 
Hey leebo, yeah mate it must have already been removed, as it stands out really easy, and i think 65mm is the standard for the v8 and 60mm for the v6, but am not totally sure.
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  6:48:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
the bell mouth is plastic and is in between the iac and throttle body! if it aint there its been removed,,, brass wtf???
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  6:52:43 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
ahh it's plastic as you said trizo i thought it was brass cos of the color i saw a picture of one one those things but it has already been removed i would think.

Has mine then been fitted with a V8 throttle body do you think?
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  6:56:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
measure the opening is it 60mm??? if so it's a stok v6 if not then its been changed!
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  7:32:29 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
yeah at no point is it 60mm, i measured 67mm at the very top side and is i measured down further i found it was an average of 65mm, the V8 throttle body's are 65mm aren't they?
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  8:16:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
99% sure they are!
 

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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  8:25:05 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
That's good i suppose i was really considering the 70mm one but i don't think the extra 5mm will make much difference.

not too much point spending the $250 to get a maybe you will get some performance, it's already done enough.

But i done broke my gasket so i will have to get a new one off dad lol.
 

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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  12:48:33 PM  Show Profile Send HOT38R a Private Message
 
60mm is the v6 throttle, 65mm is the v8 throttle and the 70mm off ebay woyuld be a v8 throttle bored to 70mm.
There really is not much point of going to a 70mm throttle from a 65mm unless it is turboed or have an aftermarket cam setup etc.
On that ebay page they say 30%more airflow, this is not correct. As most car entusiates would know that airflow when measured when not assembled will give a different reading as with being assembled. Along with everything from exhaust ports etc. WHEN the throttle is off the car this may be correct, but due to 67mm elbow and shape of the elbow this is deffinatly not correct.
 

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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  4:24:49 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
alright cheers
 

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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  01:31:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
thanks for clearing that up
 

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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  3:54:24 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
i was told that putting the V8 throttle body one will bring on the CEL as the computer doesn't know why more air is coming in that it didn't let in due to the extra size.

fact or myth?
 

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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  3:37:43 PM  Show Profile Send HOT38R a Private Message
 
well working at the commodore shop and i see loads of v6's come in with v8 throttles and no problems, i personally had no problems when putting he v8 throttle on. Not much noticable difference obviously but more response and with a manual its exactly what you want hahaha
i think that one might be a myth but if you go too big then you definatly run into dramas, i havnt seen any N/A's witht he 70mm throttle so cant say anything on that one.
 

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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  3:44:24 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
Cool thanks for that info if i have any problems while doing it i'll post them up.

do you work for or on a lot of Holden's?
 

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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  4:45:06 PM  Show Profile Send HOT38R a Private Message
 
yeh sweet as.
yeh im always working on my own aswell as i work at a Commodore wreckers and all my bros had vn commdores before me.
so have done a fair few conversions, the lot hahaha
But having no lisence atm due to p plate rules against speeding, (6km/h over) i cant drive so just doing my car up more.
 

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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  5:17:23 PM  Show Profile Send leebo a Private Message
 
ok that's something to keep you occupied in the mean time
 

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Posted - 11 Apr 2009 :  01:22:01 AM  Show Profile  Click to see delcowizzid's MSN Messenger address Send delcowizzid a Private Message
 
The bigger throttle bodies cause issues with auto shift points but apart from that an allright mod they can do with a tune with a little more fuel at WOT too helps them work to there full potential same with extractors and upgraded exhaust good gains from a tune afterwards
 

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