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jim
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 Posted - 17 Apr 2010 : 1:43:06 PM
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Hey all!
I just got my VN am loving it =D The only thing that kinda annoys me about it is the steering wheel which is kinda....ugly.
Are there more attractive steering wheels from newer model Holdens that fit the VN?
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baalamb20
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 09:43:39 AM
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| hey, yeah I got a VR-VS without airbag steering wheel from the wreckers, it feels so much better and i can actually fit a steering wheel cover on it. It was a bit of a bugger to get the old one off tho. |
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Mechknight73
National Driver
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 11:47:27 AM
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| Nothing you can't fix with a puller and a few gentle taps with a hammer. Holden tend not to change things unless it's an actual improvement, and VN-VS tends to be as interchaneable as the HQ-WB Kingswoods; although some things aren't a perfect match, lots of parts from one model will fit on another. |
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hsv_babe
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 7:15:37 PM
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| Guys i read somewhere that you shouldnt ever tap you're steering wheel with a hammer because it can damage some part of your steering column, cant remember which part but I read it on a forum on justcommodores.com ......i brought a steering wheel puller from work to get my stocky off but havent got a clue on how to use them (yes I no i work at super cheap I should no this lol) ended up getting my mate who works for a steering suspension place to do it, he got it off no problem with a few simple yanks. |
I'd gladly push my holden than drive a bloody ford! |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 8:17:46 PM
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| Using a puller should be the only way you should remove your wheel. The steering column in these cars is colapsable as a safety feature and should never be struck with a hammer as it is possible to cause damage. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Mechknight73
National Driver
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Posted - 29 Apr 2010 : 12:22:56 AM
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| If I remember correctly, it's the shaft you should never hit. However, It's sometimes possible to gently persuade the wheel to come off with a gentle tap outwards without harm |
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voodoo92
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 12:34:38 PM
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im having the worst luck trying to get my stock wheel off. i have broken a steering wheel puller completly (every single piece) and almost broken a harmonic balancer doing the same. the bolts have been replaced with high tensile ones and i have sprayed it countless times with wd-40 as well as using a hammer or two and brute force with a mate at my side. im telling you the thing is stuck. any one able to lend some knowledge to the problem. im just about to rip the hole collumn out if possible and head to boss wreckers and get a knew one. cheers
Adam |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 3:40:45 PM
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| I would use a custom puller for this kind of resistance. There are usually three factors that stop you from pulling a steering wheel; 1. excessively tight fit 2.rust/corrosion and 3.are you absolutely sure there are no circlips or small nuts still holding it down? Having not been behind the horn cap on a VN before, I don't know, but if there IS a circlip, you could put an hydraulic puller on it, and it still might not come off. Once you've confirmed there are no fasteners, let it soak with CRC for an hour, and have another go, this time with a puller that goes behind the wheel on the steering shaft. Undo the shrouds on the column, and assess what you have to work with. The service manual mentions a locking washer, but it's unclear as to what type they mean. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 5:59:28 PM
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| There is only a nut holding the steering wheel on. Once loosened it should come |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 7:41:08 PM
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| Then I guess he's going to need a "clamp-type" puller; plate over the steering wheel centre with a bolt in it to push, and a "clamp" over the spokes of the wheel. May damage the original wheel, but sounds as if he's not all that interested in keeping it anyway. |
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voodoo92
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 11:37:38 PM
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| any ideas on where to get on of these clamp pulleys and a rough idea on the cost? i work at HJs so money that i can spend is not something i see to often. lol |
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nodg
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 05:56:01 AM
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| fark sake, leave the bolt on a few turns and pull hard on each corner hard until it pops off, they will be stiff. Done anything up to fifty commodore steering wheels and never broken a column. |
Cheers,
Nodg. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 06:16:56 AM
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| Yes you can do it like this but in saying that I have had one wheel in particular that I could not get off no matter how hard I tried which is why I went down the path of a puller. Seeing as though he has broken the puller I am not sure that brute force will quite cut it nodg but it is worth a try if this method has not been tried previously. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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voodoo92
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 08:35:36 AM
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| We have deffinatly been down the path of brute force and to no avail. im not hearing anything that i havent already tried and failed at sadly. |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 09:29:31 AM
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| There is only one other option I can think of, and you may be better off removing the steering column to do it; heat. Apply some heat to the wheel spline, but not the shaft. Of course there's all the usual warnings about fire, stripping the column of all non-metal parts etc, but it's the only thing I can think of that nobody else has mentioned. |
Edited by - Mechknight73 on 24 Jun 2010 09:35:34 AM |
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nodg
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SKDWGN
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 10:46:22 PM
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| i worked at a wreakers and all i did was hit around the steering wheel with my plam fair hard and the give it a good yank but leave the bolt on when u do this i had a mate who broke his nose removing a steering wheel lol |
wheres theres smoke theres rubber |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 12:13:56 AM
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Ah the old broken nose..........I did not break mine but damn it must have been close 
Hmmmm not sure that a grinder is the best course of action, got any pictures of the puller you used and your wheel?? |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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voodoo92
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 12:29:27 PM
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sorry no pics my phones to crap and dont have a camera. I was using a puller from supercheap that looked like a H more or less with 2 holding bolts, 2 washers and a big bolt that pushes against the collumn. I had to return it to get my money back and the harmonic ballancer is from the same place. Preety sure there both on there website. is it much trouble removing a old collunm from the wreckers and mine and switching it out? Im deffinatly no mechanic and this is my first car so preety **** with that kind of knowledge. Cheers
Adam |
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Mechknight73
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 5:24:17 PM
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| Getting the steering column out isn't much trouble, it's putting it back in is where the fun begins. The bulk of the problem lies with lining up the spline properly with the shaft on the steering box. That spline is a clamp that goes around the shaft that comes out of the steering box. One of you guys must have changed a steering rack at some stage, so can you give him some clues about the proper way to do it? That's one I haven't messed with on any Commodore. Although before doing that, take out your instrument cluster, lower your fuse box lid (so you don't damage them) and hit the wheel from behind with a hammer, while wiggling it up, down, left and right. Nodg is right about rocking the wheel on the shaft, as that usually works |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 8:01:35 PM
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| If you take it easy leave the nut loose on the end of the shaft get a mate to sit in the drivers seat and pull back on the wheel with a bit of force. You get a hammer and give the nut/shaft a couple of sharp blows but take it easy and dont go over board. Make sure that the nut is right on the end of the shaft as you can burr the end of the thread over and cause yourself all sorts of dramas. Ideally you would use a brass or nylon headed hammer or a dead blow hammer. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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voodoo92
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Posted - 13 Jul 2010 : 7:09:08 PM
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| Well thanks for all the advice but it apears after days of trying to cut it off without toucking the spline, that it appears to be welded somehow underneath. According to my brother, its not standard welding from holden so some dick has done this and done it stupidly. So it looks like its a new column for me :( how fun |
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