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rouker
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 Posted - 10 May 2006 : 7:06:25 PM
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hey, i've just installed my 6x9 and 4" sony explod speakers in my car, but still can't get my head unit out to replace it.
from what i can see of it, theres no screws underneath or on the front.
i've insisted that i'm gunna do this all myself, so has anyone got any ideas of how i can get it out???
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rouker
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 7:08:28 PM
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| by the way. its a 89 vn executive manual if that is any help... |
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mouce
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 8:42:27 PM
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How far have you gotten in pulling the dash apart? For starters you've gotta take off the surround (which is that black plastic thing with the little spot for CD's under the head unit), I'm guessing you've gotten that bit out. There may be some screws in the side of the head unit that you need to get at, and if it's still the factory unit and it's NEVER been removed there is (normally) a nut right at the back of the head unit that you've got to get undone.
Let us know just what stage it's all at and we should be able to step you through it. If you haven't lifted that black surround there's a fair bit to go yet.
BTW: what headunit you got to put in? |
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rouker
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 11:17:08 PM
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ahh thanks man, yeah, i've pulled the casing around it and pulled out the casing wif the glovebox on it and ****. but have no idea how to get to the back of the head unit. yeah, its the factory unit.
will i have to take the whole dash off? i have also got the vent controls out aswell. its just a matter of finding this "anti theft" screw.
ahh, its a panasonic one, dunno what model, ex demo tho so i got it **** cheap.
thanks heaps
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mouce
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Posted - 11 May 2006 : 08:50:07 AM
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I've actually gone looking at my old headunit and it seems that all I would have had to undo to get it out was...well...nothing. Mine has two little holes on each side of the face plate of the head unit (the same as in the VX and onwards). To get it out (from a factory fit, not what the guy who owned the car left me with *******) it looks like all I would have to have done is slide some stiff wire (thick wire coathanger) in there and unclip the headunit and slide it out.
That said, mine was just sitting in there held in place with tape. LOL.
Step 8 in the Gregory's manual: Reach in beside the right hand side of the radio and using a short Phillips head screwdriver, loosen the anti-theft screw a few turns.
9) Drill out the pop rivets or shear-off screws retaining the radio/cassette to the instrument panel.
10)Slide the radio/cassette unit rearwards slightly. If necessary, loosen the anti-theft screw to gain access to the electrical connectors.
To do all that you will need to take out the heater controls, but that's only one screw, one clip and a vacuum block (2 minutes). |
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rouker
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Posted - 12 May 2006 : 08:44:49 AM
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| Thanks man. i had already tried the coat hanger thing but didn't work. what i did was take out the vent controls, and then i found the little barstard of a screw up the back. it wasn't actually screwed in the head unit, theres a hole on the right hand side and its just there as an anchor sort of thing, its screwed into a plate next to it. got any information on wires match up wif what? |
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mouce
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Posted - 12 May 2006 : 09:45:23 AM
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Orange = constant 12V
yellow = accesories
Black = earth
Brown/white = illumination
yellow/red = elec aerial
dark green(-) & light green(+) = front right
tan(+) & grey(-) = front left
dark/black(-) & blue red(+) = rear right
brown/black(+) & yellow/blue(-) = rear left
So long as you're not colour blind, that should help. BTW: that list comes courtesy of a how-to guide on Just Commodores forum.
Best way to wire it up is to go to supercheap, or repco, or autobarn and pick up a wiring harness adaptor. Essentially they plug into the standard wiring loom and then plut into the back of the head unit. Or is you're like me and couldn't find the right one (JVC headunit), I just got one to go from a VN commodore loom to loose wires, then I just soldered these to the wires coming out the back of the h/u.
The one I got had little printing on the wires telling me what each one did. Didn't take much then. The only problem is that sometimes it gets a little crowded behind the h/u with all the wires, but it will all fit. |
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lolo
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Posted - 12 Jun 2006 : 01:55:46 AM
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| If GOD ever played a joke on a young 'un it would be on the one trying to put a new head unit in his VN.... You gotta pull the whole bl00dy dash appart including glovebox to do it. wont ever catch me doing it again... JB HI-FI will be responsible next time....so what if it cost 65 bux |
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mouce
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Posted - 12 Jun 2006 : 11:44:31 AM
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Don't take it to JB. That bunch of monkeys couldn't install anything properly. The number of horror stories I've heard come from people who get stuff done at JB makes me wonder how they are still in business. Find a dedicated car-audio shop and get them to do it. Sure it's going to cost a little bit more...but at least you know that the job will be done properly.
I've actually seen the 'fitting bay' at my local JB. No joke...it's just done in the carpark out the back. If it's raining, all your **** gets wet. |
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lolo
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 10:35:49 PM
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| by JB I meant any place that installs the things lol... at least its harder for the bastardos trying to steal it |
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kempo
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 10:39:55 PM
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OMG >.< Headunit + VN = No Same!!! The worst car to put a Headunit in. But hey good luck someone trying to steal your Headunit they would be in your car for over 4hrs trying to get it out :P
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James Mongan
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 11:20:12 PM
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| gees you guys make it sound like a tough job, obviously mine had been out preiously as i only undone the side screws and it nearly fell out, i thought that it was pretty simple. neitherways i got a good one now all is good. |
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lolo
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Posted - 06 Jul 2006 : 6:38:16 PM
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| Hell whoever did yours mustve stuffed it in there without the proper brackets or casing or else your car is just weird... at first I thought all you had to do was take those screws out... I was nearly right...just those and 60 others.... |
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mouce
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Posted - 06 Jul 2006 : 6:41:50 PM
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To get the original head unit out is a bit of a fiddly job, I'll give you that. But once it's out, MOST installers (professional and back-yard) tend to just bolt the h/u back in with the screws on the front, and maybe ONE from the side.
I don't know anyone who has put a h/u in and used ALL the original fixings. |
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lolo
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Posted - 06 Jul 2006 : 8:10:32 PM
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| Fair enough, I obviously dindt know that... hope mine wasnt done like that....I dont want it to be any easier to steal... but then again why would anyone steal a unit without a face :) hehe the joys of detachable faces lol |
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mouce
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Posted - 06 Jul 2006 : 9:04:01 PM
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Actually...if it's an aftermarket one, I can almost promise you that it's only held in using about three screws. You need to remove the surround (three screws there), pull out the heater control panel (one screw) and then it should all be possible to rip it out.
If they went to a little more trouble, another 6 or seven screws and the binnacle comes out and then the three screws for the h/u.
They aren't hard to get out at all. The biggest bitch is the 'security' screw that holds them in, it's in a tough spot to get at, that's why no one bothers trying to put it back in. |
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lolo
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 01:24:53 AM
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| so much for security then huh |
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mouce
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 10:43:53 AM
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Said and done there's nothing in a car that is secure if you have enough time. It's all about making it take too long to make it an attractive target.
Anything more than about 2-3 minutes and most thieves will leave it alone. |
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matt
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Posted - 16 Aug 2006 : 5:06:33 PM
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hey, how do you get the air con controls off so u can take the surrounds completely off? i just dont wanna be to rough when i dont really know as not to screw the controls up. do they just unclip or unscrew off the face bit?
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mouce
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Posted - 16 Aug 2006 : 5:35:17 PM
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If you've just got the standard controls (ie. not climate control) then:
1) Remove the gear lever surround (slide two fingers underneath and lift gently).
2) Remove the three screws at the base of the centre console surround.
3) Ease surround away from the console, unclip a/c push button and remove completely.
4) On the left hand side of the heater controls there is a single screw. Undo the screw.
5) Get into the drivers side footwell, and find the heater control rod, disconnect heater control rod from 'white lever arm'.
6) Slide heater control panel forwards an inch or two. Carefully disconnect the vacuum controls from the back of the 'direction' dial. And the electrical connectors from their positions.
7) Remove the heater control box.
When it comes time to put everything back in, before you clip the heater control rod back in, ensure the heater control is set to fully cold, and that the white lever is fully depressing the little switch when you clip it all back together.
All that said, if you've got climate control, I've got NFI. Hope it was some help. |
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matt
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Posted - 17 Aug 2006 : 10:44:59 AM
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| nope iv got standard a/c so that is all a huge help, i can totally understand now how people are saying its a huge hassle, u wont want to do this more than once. |
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mouce
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Posted - 17 Aug 2006 : 11:50:06 AM
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Actually, once you've done it for the first time, it's as easy as piss to do it again. It just takes a bit to work it out how to do it first time. For me the hardest part is getting the vacuum block back on.
when you're doing that, be careful that you don't crack the block, it's a bit of a bitch to try to replace. |
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matt
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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 : 6:43:52 PM
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yep all done, those two bloody screws at the back took ages to get off, so anyway one hour later and a severly cut finger, all is done.
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