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Dano84
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 Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 08:37:30 AM
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my mate has made a twin throttle body for sale, unlike ive ever seen before. it has the original throttle body cut off, and a plate welded to the back of the plenum chamber.
he's then cut and welded 2 throttle bodies(upright) to the top of the plenum chamber, joined them with a linkage so they run off 1 accelerator cable.
so my question is this although it looks extremely cool, do u guys think there would be probs with the sensors on the plenum chamber??
1 more thing, it doesnt fit under a standard bonnet so a scoop would definatley be on the cards
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 11:40:29 AM
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| Any pics buddy?? |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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trizo
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 1:36:12 PM
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| couldnt c any plus in a home made twin t/b!! |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 4:43:55 PM
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| Surely you have done mods to your car that just are just to make it look better or different triz?? |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 9:28:15 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing the pics.
It is worth remembering though that Trizo is kind of right... the twins will let more air in, but the intake manifold won't allow you to take full advantage of it.
Having said that VNSVLE is also right- if it looks good and doesn't send performance backwards, why not? Provided it isn't rice-y LED washer jets ;) |
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trizo
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 10:28:08 PM
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at the same time having all this fancy stuff welded up ( me being a first class welder/egineer ) is that like mild has stated is that the madifold will need to be recast! hence reset and made from scratch! And thats just the start of it !!the rest of the motor will need to be re tuned to cope with the copious amounts of air coming in!! bang bang break hear me ? I dont say this sh1t for fun! regardless of what schooling you just done!  |
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MILD50
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 09:44:12 AM
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But just having an extra throat won't break anything.
Sure- there will be a little bit more air passing through the throttle bodies but it won't make it very fair through the runners.
While the viability of the mod will always be called into question, I can't see it leading to catastrophic engine failure. |
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trizo
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 7:44:44 PM
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I can see some real problems with it such as fuel mixture , airflow comresion ect but hey, if thats the boat you wanna float by all means go ahead .. I'm only stating my opinion on something that I know fuc all about, I guess until I see the finished product I cant realy comment to much!! |
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 8:45:39 PM
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fuel mixture???? doesnt the comp, adjust the air fuel ratio by sensing how much air it is getting??
ill try to get some pics 2morrow for u guys!! it looks killa |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 8:48:48 PM
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| It can but only to a certain extent. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 8:57:56 PM
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| so wot would limit it then?? injectors, or would u need a re-map |
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LOWVH8
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:00:45 PM
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| computer will need to be re mapped for sure i dont really see a benifit in this mod myself but if it is what you like go ahead |
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:06:44 PM
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there has to be a benefit, with engines, more air + more fuel + more spark = more power, in laymans terms
I know that it would give me more air flow, i just want some info on what problems my arise, but hey, keep telling me wot ur opinions, coz someone would have had to have tried this |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:11:34 PM
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| I would do it just for the looks |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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LOWVH8
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:14:38 PM
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| if you can get the manifold to flow the extra air sufficiantly and get the comp re mapped to deliver the extra fuel then yes there will be benifits the only thing i can see hindering you is the manifold as bigger injectors are an easy step hope it works well for you though |
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:16:57 PM
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hell yeahhhh it would look sick..... $200 bucks my mate wants for it. do u think it worth it??
all id need to fit it would be a gasket.... i think??
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LOWVH8
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:22:28 PM
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| yer a gasket would be all that is needed for $200 it is your cash as stated it would look sick and im sure it would get plenty of attention and i dont think it would hinder performance to much and with manifold porting and a re map im sure you could reap some rewards i just dont know how much |
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:31:10 PM
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done.... use have convinced me, ill get pics of the set up b4- and after i put it on.
1 other thing, is it legal to have a bonnet scoop in S.A?? theres no way it will fit under a standard bonnet!!
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LOWVH8
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Dano84
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 9:50:24 PM
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cheers for the link lowvh8, it says i can have a rearward facing scoop, but not a frontward facing 1, that sux.
i want the ram air effect, so i might have to do it anyway..... bahahahaha |
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LOWVH8
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trizo
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 12:28:14 AM
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| lmao no convincing here! gl with it and post some pics when you get a chance ... |
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MILD50
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 11:06:15 AM
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Honestly, I don't think you'd need a remap at all.
The manifold can only flow what it can flow. While there will be a small increase in airflow, it won't be enough to warrant a lot of changes. Sure a tune will take full advantage of it, but I can't see the hp gain, being worth the $$$.
Home made performance parts are only going to be worth what someone is prepared to pay so I can't comment on it, but if you are prepared to do it- post pics and let us know he you go! |
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nodg
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 11:29:30 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by MILD50
But just having an extra throat won't break anything.
Sure- there will be a little bit more air passing through the throttle bodies but it won't make it very fair through the runners.
While the viability of the mod will always be called into question, I can't see it leading to catastrophic engine failure.
thats what i said before someone deleted my post.... it would be for the look and slightly more throttle response. more power? doubt it |
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.kiwi.
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 7:14:52 PM
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| i think that a throttle body coming off each side of the plenum chamber would look cool as with a pod filter on each side of the engine bay. that would have to be worth 5 **** points :) |
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trizo
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 8:55:05 PM
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| as being stated above!!! if you want looks, go for it , if you want trouble go for it !! Again I know fuc all about this sort of thing being a graduate lol.... I am getting the feeling agree to disagree !!! hmmmm |
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Dano84
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 9:17:27 PM
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| a throttle body off each side would look really cool, but how would you link then together? it could be done, but it would be a bit of a head fu*k. this is why they are mounted on the top |
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dhosky
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Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 3:59:55 PM
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| another mod is to get a V8 throtle body as they fit straight on the V6 but are about 10mm larger diameter and do make a difference |
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trizo
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Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 4:24:32 PM
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| lmao realy! the largest opening from memory for the v6 that you can fit is 90mm, also there is no real power gain from the larger t/b it just gives you a bit more throttle response is all but not horse power! |
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Edited by - trizo on 29 Apr 2008 4:27:16 PM |
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SWEET
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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 1:57:02 PM
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| hey VNSVLE wat did i say to u in this section of the comment that u didnt like? plus how can i wen this topic was done on 13th april 2008 and i havnt been on here for over a month... so can u tell me wat i said? |
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trizo
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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 5:14:32 PM
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| lol sweet lets start fresh! there is another section for things like that.... |
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