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BankstownJim
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 Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 2:05:11 PM
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This is my 1st attempt of changing gaskets in any type of Commodore. I have to take off the sump and the book im reading from says that i need to remove the front crossmember i cant find this information in the book only that i need to do it. Could someone please send me a photo or legiable illistration with idiot friendly instructions on how to take off this piece so i can get to the sump.
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Edited by - trizo on 18 Aug 2008 6:39:07 PM |
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MILD50
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Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 3:30:40 PM
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If you are reading from a Gregories or similar it will probably redirect you to the suspension section.
I'll have a look at mine when I get home and see if I can sort something out for you- is it a six or an eight? |
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vaxx
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 2:19:37 PM
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Ohhh, watch out for the cast iron flywheel cover with its 2 legs bolting to the sump. If that's there, it will turn into a major pita to take the sump off without lifting the engine out
And you don't need to take the x-member out. You can lift the engine enough to clear the pickup.
It is easier to remove the engine to do it.
And change the welch plugs while your at it. |
Edited by - vaxx on 19 Aug 2008 2:21:11 PM |
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trizo
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 2:41:41 PM
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| I agree it would be quicker removing the engine. you will prolly rind that the bolts holding the sump in are on top of the sump lip , a real poxy spot if you ask me... At least with the engine out they are easy to get to! |
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vaxx
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 2:45:42 PM
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BTW, we are talking vn v6 here? you haven't stated model/engine
Makes a diff
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jas89
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 3:09:40 PM
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i replaced all gaskets on me vn while engin was in car......wasnt that fun :P
to do the sump i had all suspension out of car anyway so it was a matter of me undoing the cross member and letting it fall....with engine supported with a metal axle (small axle) across the strut towers....would i do it again???? .......short answer is ..yes i would as it wasn't very hard just time consuming. However mne didn't have the cast iron inspection cover plate, mine had a thin metal on but teh cast iron one is a prick to get on and off lol with the wreck in the yard it was a pain in the ass...lol |
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trizo
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 3:25:40 PM
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| the cast iorn plate aint hard at all, |
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MILD50
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 3:35:10 PM
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I've not done it myself, but most people I've spoken to recommend dropping the crossmember to get to the sump, rather than lifting the engine.
That's for the V8- not sure how the six is different. |
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trizo
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 3:36:53 PM
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| to do the sump on the six is a bitch... idealy any work on the motor is best out of the bay..but not every 1 has accsess to hoists ect.. |
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nodg
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 2:17:53 PM
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| theres a special tool that mechanics buy specifically for this reason, its a bar which rests on your strut towers and has a mini crane on the end, it holds/jacks the motor up to do the sump gasket. |
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trizo
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 8:11:43 PM
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nodg is the 6 the same as the 8 in the way that the sump bolts are on top of the pan?
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 03:35:46 AM
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| ive done a pan on the v6 and an early carby v8 and they werernt bolted from the top of the pan. just get a ratchet and extension bar and itll do the job. |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 12:47:17 PM
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| I swear cars in the eastern states were built different , both my vns have the sump bolts around the pan lip , same as the other ones I have worked on... |
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 2:28:50 PM
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| I know what you mean maybe they changed between series or some crap, something i cant explain, anyway i was checking the under hood bolts/nuts for tightness and nipped them up a tad on the vn this morning and its the same as the carby v8. |
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