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Posted - 29 Jan 2012 :  10:10:55 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
hey fellow commodore friends,

l have my fathers 1990 holden vn s pack commodore (so a series one engine) that he brought brand new in 1990 and he has had it regularly serviced ever since he brought it.

it clicked over 350,000kms last month and has been running fine until last monday where l drove it to work in the morning then 3 hours later l drove it home at which point when l got home it started leaking water everywhere in my drive way.

l popped the bonnet and had a look around and it looked like l would need to replace the radiator, so l replaced it. along with replacing the radiator l also replaced the water pump and the thermostat but it still seems to be leaking.

it is only leaking out of the cap on the reservoir on the left hand side of the motor and it only leaks once l have turned the engine off so l can stop at a set of lights it will be fine but once l turn the engine of (ie, when l am parking) it will start to leak from the cap again.

if anyone has any idea on what l should do or what the problem could be it and how to fix it, it would be greatly appreciated

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-ben
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 :  03:31:37 AM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
1990 Should be a series 2 buddy. September 89 they went to the series 2.
Does it have a cap on the radiator??
Throw up a pic if you can buddy may help out!

Welcome to the club!!
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What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 :  07:45:57 AM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
hey nah its def a series 1 engine as there is no cap on the radiator its on the overflow reservoir on the left hand side of the engine bay and the thermostat is under the throttle body at the back of the engine (which sucks lol). lm at work at the moment but when l get home tho l will put some up tho for you. on the paperwork my father has from smiths holden in geelong it says that it was brought in feb of 1990 brand new so maybe it was on clearance sale or something like that
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 :  07:47:55 AM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
vnsvle this is a great site also l have been monitoring it for a few months now just soaking up all the information it has to offer
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 :  8:10:37 PM  Show Profile Send kingbucktoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Since you have changed most of the essential parts of the cooling system, Have you changed the radiator cap & if when?? Reading from other threads on this site the series 1 seem to run a higher pressure cooling system. So maybe just your radiator cap has just broken and cant take the slightly higher pressure when the motor has stopped, The cooling system would increase in pressure just after turn off as the water is not being circulated though the motor/radiator.
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 :  9:09:55 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
the radiator cap is a weird one as it has it has a hose coming out of it and going to the coolant reservoir which is on the other side of the engine bay. would anyone know of where l could find the product code/# for the reservoir cap? lm gunna ring up smiths holden geelong (a holden dealership in geelong) and see if the parts division can get me a part before l go to a wreckers to find a replacement (but somehow l doubt they will have one, but then there are some gaskets l can only get from holden still from what l have been told)

and sorry vnsvle for not taking any pictures just yet, completely forgot but will take them before work tomorrow morning
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Posted - 31 Jan 2012 :  02:02:21 AM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Not a problem buddy!!
You will have to thank our leader David for the site. He is the brains behind it all.
Should be able to pick up the cap at most of your Autobarn/Supercheap type places I believe.
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 31 Jan 2012 :  9:16:53 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
hey l took some pictures today but cant seem to figure out how to upload them into this post, l click on the little icon but then it brings up a heap of dialog l dont understand in this box

rang up bursons in geelong and l am picking up tomorrow what hopefully is a new radaitor cap

its still doing the leaking thing from the reserviour but only after the car engine is turned off?
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Posted - 01 Feb 2012 :  07:29:37 AM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Easiest way is to get yourself a photobucket accout and upload them to there first.
Then you just copy the IMG code staight into your post.
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What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 01 Feb 2012 :  7:42:10 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 








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Posted - 01 Feb 2012 :  7:45:05 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
the words in the picture say "when the cap is on the water reservior it leaks out of the bottom of the cap through the thread" (lol l thought you would be able to read it in the picture :P and thanks for the tip vnsvle :)
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Posted - 01 Feb 2012 :  9:24:18 PM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Hmmm never seen them with a reservoir on the passenger side before. Maybe a series 1.5.
If it is coming out the bottom of the radiator cap a new one should fix this issue.
Other than that not sure.
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What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 01 Feb 2012 :  10:59:22 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Yeh the one on the other side is for collant (well it says collant on it :P) but yeh l got a cap on order from a place in Geelong, just gotta figure out how to get out there lol
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Posted - 14 Feb 2012 :  10:30:04 AM  Show Profile Send Cartrite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Stating the obvious but the pressurerised coolant bottles crack on series 1 and can leak intermittantly.Also i assuming all the welsch plugs have been replaced/checked,they can weep sometimes,even the stainless ones between the plug & block.The rear welsch plug need the Tranny. removed to access and is sometimes overlooked by lazy/slack mechanics when renewing plugs.
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Posted - 14 Feb 2012 :  12:28:30 PM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
Yeh nah all welsch plugs are fine its just leaking through the thread on the top of the water reserviour, l know its not cracked its just that pressurerised cap that need to be replaced cos it doesnt hold the pressure once the car is turned off and push it into the collant bottle on the other side of the engine bay but it has been taking the collant back over to the water bottle tho which is good.
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Posted - 15 Feb 2012 :  09:26:32 AM  Show Profile Send Cartrite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
OK,what we use to do on series 1 is just fit a radiator with cap and use the reservoir on the passengers side,throw the drivers side reservoir into the bin,you can pick up a radiator on Ebay for $100.
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Posted - 15 Feb 2012 :  10:27:26 AM  Show Profile Send roverman88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
 
l must admit, it did cross my mind to get rid of as much of the series 1 collant stuff and put series 2 stuff in its replace but l figure l will try n keep it as close to what come of the factory line as possible but if l keep having problems l will def be putting in the series 2 stuff
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